Propoganda, or just pure lies?

Has anyone else seen any so-called "news" stories like this one (http://www.cursor.org/stories/vietnam_redux.htm)? It makes me sick to my stomach when I see stories like this, esp. when I realize that they are written by Americans!!! I can't wait for the day to come when all these liberal, so-called "intelligentsia" realize that their collegiate fantasies about a Plato-like Utopia cannot exist because it goea againts every tennant of human nature.

this is the reason why i hate ignorant people. i just try not to pay attention anymore.

Well hell,,70% of teachers in america are liberals,,all the student knows is the idealogical ways of the chickenshit liberals...some are communist and they admit it, CHe Rivera poster doesn't give away in class displayed proudly by the teacher....,..i went to a 7th grade class, in central california, for modern history Abu Graib prison tortures,,of all the things important achievements and moments in history,,ABU Graib!! get the fuck out here..I dare any foreign students at UCSB talk shit about my country..

I love the first photo. It was part of our cultural training slide show. See how the "professor" calls the trained, official Army of Afghanistan "mercenaries". And this guy does not have an agenda? LOL.

We do have some cultural problems, but this stuff happens in all wars. And he mentions things that we have not done in ages. Tying up women? I have never seen nor heard about anybody doing that. Brutal interrogations? LOL, This guys is a throwback hippie with a title. Sadly, our educated young men and women are to easily convinced about stuff like this. It is much more difficult to do the research and learn from first hand experience. But it is also easier to listen to a pot loving "educated man" tell them how it is.

We do have a lot to learn and improve in Afghanistan. But right now, it is a SASO mission, meaning that we cannot go around and kick doors like we used to. We are there to assist in the stabilization of the country and give them their sovereign powers back.

My $0.25

Uncle Jerry

I just have to say that what you, Ronald, said about teachers really disturbs me. 70% are LIBERALS?? Where do you get that fact? I, myself, am a teacher and FAR from being a liberal. My co-workers over the past 3 years are the same. In WA, for example, NONE of us supported our ex Gov. Gary Locke who was such a liberal it was disgusting! In my view and my experience teachers are more republican than anything else!

Hi Just a Girl,

Without getting into a flame war, I think was Ronald was thinking about (and I am sorry Ronald, I have no right to assume what you said) is college professors, and that particular professor who runs cursor.org is a typical example.

I think that Ronald and I have a biased opinion, because we are California residents, and we see this type of crap all the time. I sometimes go to the "protests" to listen to thoughts and messages, and to read what the "American public" has to say either pro or con about our protection of Strategic Assets, and the survival of our way of life.

All I meet at these protests, are pseudo intellectual, worker's party representatives (google that one for a laugh), old people with "liberated" ideals, and a whole bunch of college students, along with their cadre (I use the word cadre for a particular compelling reason). That cadre is composed of Social Science, Humanities and History professors who constantly feed one perspective to their charges, and do a disservice to the education of our young men and women.

So just a girl, I am very proud to hear from a teacher who defends the conservative thought and action. Please forgive Ronald and myself for just being freaking tired of the exposure all these professors get, them being the representatives of our Americana intelligentsia.

To bad people like you do not get together and counter-demonstrate the freaks we fight for, to give them the chance to pretend they give two cents about us, and are afraid of spitting in our faces when we come back home from war. Supporting the troops, is indeed, the new insult these liberals spew upon the 1 percenters. But I also applaud people who do not counter-demonstrate, because that would be like stepping to their lower levels of intellect.

My best wishes to you and your co-workers,

Uncle Jerry.

I completely agree w/ you, Jerry. I come from California too, and I hear all the time about how our troops should just not do what their told if they disagree with it, like this war. People here are so selfish and self centered that they never think that someone else might have a different opinion from them. I took a sociology class as a GE requirement and heard continuously about how this war is no different from Vietnam and we should stay out of other countries' business and wars, and be peaceful. The professor even went as far as organizing a 'sit in' protest against the war, in which I lost class participation points because I refused to be a part of it. Upon hearing that my husband is a soldier in the army, and has been deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan, more often than not I'm met with 'your husband supports murder and genocide' and 'your husband is a baby killer and a rapist'. People in California are much more liberal than most places, especially when it comes to those in higher education. It's really disgusting.

Anywho...getting off my soapbox now.

Hi Amy,

That is exactly what I meant. And you had to experience it first hand. I am sorry you had to deal with that nonsense. And there you have it folks, even our loved ones staying behind, get the crap from our "open minded" professors at our "learning institutions".

This is pathetic and offensive to no end. The fact that a sociology "professor" is so combative about it is even worse.

I had a very interesting conversation with a college/university professor at a demonstration in Alhambra, CA. I was fresh out of Iraq (OIF I), and I was chatting this guy up, leading him in with my discourse, and finally I dropped the bomb: "you will not believe the amount of photographs I have of people welcoming into their homes, feeding my team, and generally thankful for our presence and our effort". "I have goose bumps, remembering the dust clouds that would greet us at most villages. The dust clouds were not a natural phenomena, but a man made one. Made by dozens of children who would scream at the tops of their lungs: Jerry!!!!, Nadim!!!!, Billy!!!!, running along our Hummves and smiling and laughing".

This floored the prof. He could not understand it. Fortunately, he was not a complete butthead and understood that not all that is portrayed by the media is the truth.

Now, it is my turn to get off the soapbox. Thanks for your support Amy, and kiss that man of yours all the time. He deserves it.

Cheers,

Uncle Jerry

I agree Liberal extremeist are frustrating and think they are mighter than us soldiers becuase they can solve all the worlds issues with out the use of force. Thats a nice dream and I will gladly turn in my rifle if that world ever comes into existance, but until then we are neccessary to protect our free society. Eventhough I don't agree with them, I am glad they exist. It lets me know that we still live in a free country where anyone, no matter how ridiculous, can voice an opinion freely without fear of the government taking him away in the night.

And there are orginizations like the Patriot riders that drown out the 1% Libreal Extremist and who openly support our troops. They saw us off when I left GA, it was amazing all the bikes that escorted us along wiht the Duluth county Sherrifs office to the Atlanta International Airport. Or the Maine Greeters who met us at the Bangor Airport on a stop over on the way over here. You want to support the troops and counter act the Liberals there are plenty of ways and organizations to let you do that. Volunteer and help out.

I apologize sounding so frustrated or angry..every since the 2,000 antiwar protesters in Santa Barbara (this was 3 years ago) and the vadalizing of a Reserve armory where i work., the way people treated my soldiers during a drill weekend,,it just a left bad impression that lasted for a while. Yes,,anyone can voice their opinions and political views,,but there are people out that willl disagree,,many liberals, tree huggers, hippies, professors think that their views or opinions are right and that theirs only matters..they actually believe that. Santa Barbara is a paradise, but when they see a soldier in uniform, they don't like being reminded of reality of the world. You can feel the hate. Don't get me started on Berkeley. In the east coast and midwest many are good and respectful towards the veterans. Being raised in Chicago and living in the east coast, i had good experience working there. But left coast have a whole different attitudes. But the fact is,,i love my country, believe in it and would die for it...hooah..

That makes sense Jerry. College professors are certainly much different than an elementary teacher such as myself lol. I hated college in the fact that, yes, there were so many liberal views it made me want to PUKE! Needless to say, I didn't fit in in college so I just got my degree and got out! lol

I would like to believe that most professors and teachers do support our military and the only reason that this doesn't appear to be the case is that they are not making a fuss about it.
I served for 11 years and in that time I have beem yelled and cursed at and on occasions have fought with the more radical types. I have been kissed, hugged patted on my back and my hand shakin and beer bought for me what I remember most is when an elderly East German woman that staired at a buddy and me in uniform and eventually approached us and hugged us and cried asking us not to ever leave Europe because as she explained to us that everyone on the East believed that as long as we were there they had HOPE of some day being free...this was back in 87. When the Berlin wall came down I thought about her and couldn't help but smile.
So F them self righteous ego maniac B-stards that think their beliefs are the only ones that matter.
Who knows, maybe it's just a jealousy thing that while they sit/sat on their arses watching history unfold that there are those who walk amongst them that made or are making history that they will soon have to teach.
Yes everyone has a right to their opinions and if they so chose to let others know of them they better be prepared to get some "opinions" fired back.

God Bless you all and stay safe.

Oh and PS: thats my 1 dollar! ( Inflation ya know) : )